Nope, you must have told the officer you didn't know where it was (misplaced or lost), not that you left it somewhere else (knew where it actually was) and could produce it at a later date. The department is not obligated nor will they do a search to verify if you actually purchased one.....the onus is on you to produce the original. They insist on the original as there are situations (caught and retained fish of a certain size) where you must sign and date the back of the licence. It's also illegal to have two licences for the same reason. The fine is correct.

 

If you are able to prove you purchased one, then you may try and plead not guilty and set a court date then bring the proof.

 

You need to produce the original, that is the only acceptable proof that would be accepted.

 

Possible that the prosecutor will be understanding and toss the ticket after being shown proof one was purchased. Who knows, he may find the original and bring it as proof.

 

The receipt books with the carbon copies are all sent back to the dept. They surely won't go thru them all to find the specific carbon copy so as to help the charged person out..........especially since it's only the original that will help.

 

Hopeful one day Manitoba can get into the 21st century and go digital.
Until then you are on the hook

 

1. Look for the licences if you can't find it.
2. Contact the COs with the numbers you have knowing your wife's number.
you have to do this any way to get a new licences.
3. If you find the licences or have proof go to court. Plead not guilty. To never having a licences.
4. As long as you had proof you had one it shows you are not guilty of the ticket. You were not charged with anything else.

5 Think of the time off work and if the ticket is worth it to fight.
A lot of the time it's not between stress and loss of pay or holiday time.
You may consider it a hard lesson.

Just my two cents good luck .

 

Take a picture of it. Everyone carries a phone nowadays

 

Not accepted, has to be the original. Even if your charged with "failure to carry", you still have to provide the original. If your charged with "fishing without" it's a done deal...... unless you plead not guilty (because you actually found your original) go to court and then the fine gets reduced to "failure to carry", the difference in the fine is $124.....need to ask yourself if it's all worth it?????

 

^^^ BGF is correct - must have original. After you pay your fine, go to Saulteux and they will issue a new one for $10.
As for any leniency, you can hope - but its black and white in the guide, which is what the authorities enforce.
Good Luck!

 

Just wait till we get E licenses and we lose our phone in the hole or over the side of the boat. Sure as [emoji90]I would get checked if that happened to me. I still like the Ontario way with the outdoors card. For me I renew every three years. No worries of getting that card wet. It’s always in my tackle box.


Winter rig: 2016 Bearcat 2000XT, Eskimo QuickFish 3i, Eskimo F1 Rocket 10”, Humminbird Helix 5 w/Iceducer.

 

Might be a dumb question. Why would you even have to worry about your phone. If it’s electronic they run your name. You show your photo id to confirm you’re who you say you are and voila the CO pulls you up in the data base. Or am I totally misunderstanding something.

 

Do CO’s have a way of checking that data if they’re on a sled or even in their truck? I don’t know as I’ve never been checked in Manitoba.


Winter rig: 2016 Bearcat 2000XT, Eskimo QuickFish 3i, Eskimo F1 Rocket 10”, Humminbird Helix 5 w/Iceducer.

 

As with all tickets you could check your waiting time and then go to a law court and ask to be seen by a magistrate. You would have to produce the carbon copy if you can get one. You would plead guilty with an explanation.
This would not get you off the hook for not having your license with you, but the magistrate may give you a reduced fine,,, depending on your history with the legal system, and how you present yourself and whatever explanation provided. This is done via video court or over the phone.
Also depends how mush time you have to spare as courts are Mon.- Fri.

 

My reply was to 660catman who was wondering what would happen if a person had phone issues after the province has gone to electronic licensing. I’m thinking they would be able to get wifi in their vehicles same as RCMP, hydro and MTS are able to do.

 

I take it then they would have to have satellite enabled wifi. I know the Whiteshell, LW and LM would be covered with normal service. Up north where I go a lot, forget about normal service. There is none! Not sure of coverage on Whitemouth Lake, not that I ever go there.



Winter rig: 2016 Bearcat 2000XT, Eskimo QuickFish 3i, Eskimo F1 Rocket 10”, Humminbird Helix 5 w/Iceducer.

 

I'm not sure what the rules in ON are, but here is the message I received when purchasing the license:


"Thank you for your recent activity on Ontario’s Fish and Wildlife Licencing Service.
For your convenience attached is your licence summary and receipt (if you made a purchase). The licence summary can be printed anytime or can be saved for use on your mobile device. If you have any questions, contact the Natural Resources Information and Support Centre at 1-800-387-7011."


I think you still have to produce it as a printed copy or on your phone. The gas station in ON printed it out for me and said that I needed to keep a copy with me.

 

Ontario has what they call an outdoors card. Card is good for three years. You can buy a one year fishing license but you then have to renew license every year. You can renew online and print off license and carry with your card. I buy a card and three year fishing license so I know when my card expires, so does my license. And Ontario is by calendar year.


Winter rig: 2016 Bearcat 2000XT, Eskimo QuickFish 3i, Eskimo F1 Rocket 10”, Humminbird Helix 5 w/Iceducer.

 

April 1 2020 Manitoba goes to online licensing.


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It says starting in April not April 1.

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I also think it all depends on what conservation officer stops to check on you and how you respond to them questioning you. Have been stopped and had to show my licence six times last year and all in different locations of the province. Twice I showed them the paper copy and the other four times showed the copy that was on my phone and had no issues doing so.

 

And to me there’s no reason why they can’t use a photo of license. It’s yours and you have your drivers license that was used for ID when you bought it.


Winter rig: 2016 Bearcat 2000XT, Eskimo QuickFish 3i, Eskimo F1 Rocket 10”, Humminbird Helix 5 w/Iceducer.

 

I don't know how many people keep big fish or even carry a pen on them with the intention of signing the back of the license. Will be interesting to see how they implement the signing after the licenses go digital.

 

So who wants to guess on how much more our license will cost with this new roll out?

 

An extra fiver! They’ll blame it on cost of conservation


Winter rig: 2016 Bearcat 2000XT, Eskimo QuickFish 3i, Eskimo F1 Rocket 10”, Humminbird Helix 5 w/Iceducer.