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Hey team!

My name is Ryan. I'm looking forward to chatting with you all about fishing and MB in general! I have lots to learn but willing and excited about it :)

I grew up fishing at Victoria Beach where you usually just throw off a pickeral rig and wait for a perch to swallow the hook completely or reel up the occasional silver bass, catfish or pickerel. So... pretty limited in techniques!

I just bought a 17 foot speed boat. A seahawk. Whatever the hell that is! 125 hp motor on the back. I went with this guy because I want to take my son tubing and water skiing this summer but also want to go out fishing quite a bit. It's definitely no fishing rig but with the open bow I figure I can get a few guys on here fishing no problem. I've attached a few pics of it. If you see me out and about on it, make sure you say hi!

Hooking up some cup holders and a fish finder to it. Little nervous about drilling into fiberglass since I've never done it before and more nervous about putting the transducer in the wrong spot. Hopefully I nail it. I've watched some youtube vids.... some helpful, some not.

Planning a trip to West Hawk Lake (most likely) when it warms up a tad. I promised him we would do a bunch of camping trips and bring the boat out so if anyone knows some good camping spots for fishing that have a boat launch at the campground (or close by) let me know!

So far my plans are: Drop the boat in the water at Maple Grove Park and take some of the guys to the Pony on pembina for a bite to eat. After that is a blur for the summer!

I look forward to chatting in the future. Thanks for having me :D
 

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Don't worry I don't have a boat that I can take anywhere so a lot of the time I'll be stuck on shore or using small watercraft. I could buy myself a nice boat but I should probably be responsible and put my money towards more important things as much as I like fishing.

Well all levels of fishermen are here so you'll fit right in anyways.

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Yah, I cashed out a bunch of shares when my company sold so I took the majority and paid down my mortgage.

That being said, it was a good sum so I took a small portion and bought a boat. Figured my quality of life can improve a bit after all the hard work I put in there haha.

I was going to take it to Victoria Beach where my cabin is and just throw it there for the summer but then I'm stuck there and there's also a huge waiting list to dock the boat. Plus it's expensive as hell. This way I just store it at my sisters which is only ten mins outside the city (20 mins from my condo) and I can go anywhere.

Really excited to take it out in West Hawk. Good fishing and the lakes are smaller so they're not too choppy. Good for water skiing and tubing with friends/my son.
 

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Welcome.
The Alberta plate in the boat made me think of home.
Plenty of video's on youtube to help you install anything on that boat. Measure twice and drill once ; )
 

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Yah, I'm not even sure why that was in there. The boat was registered in MB before I bought it, so... hmmmmmm
 

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Oh yeah. With all of the talk of Lake Winnipeg and West Hawk Lake, please learn of which lakes are in the zone of Aquatic Invasive Species and decontaminate accordingly.
 

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Dumb question, but did you get that motor checked out before purchasing. I ask because I bought a boat with a Force engine (looks like the one on the back of yours is a Force as well) and they are unfortunately a piece of ****, parts are rare to find and cost a lot more than they're worth. You might look into the costs of ownership over the years on this before investing more into it. Of course, if you're good with motors, then it just might be trying to secure parts (when needed).
 

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Oh yeah. With all of the talk of Lake Winnipeg and West Hawk Lake, please learn of which lakes are in the zone of Aquatic Invasive Species and decontaminate accordingly.
Way ahead of you my man! I've already done so and will be very careful. It's actually in the boating course when you get your licence too. I have a wash bay I can use and I'll take care of it before I leave the lake :)

Dumb question, but did you get that motor checked out before purchasing. I ask because I bought a boat with a Force engine (looks like the one on the back of yours is a Force as well) and they are unfortunately a piece of ****, parts are rare to find and cost a lot more than they're worth. You might look into the costs of ownership over the years on this before investing more into it. Of course, if you're good with motors, then it just might be trying to secure parts (when needed).
Yah, I hadn't heard of force before I started to look at buying a boat. I was skeptical at first.

Bit of a story...

My sister and sister in law get this guy to fix their motors on their boats religiously. They said he's really good, quick, and honest. With that being said, they asked him if he knew of any boats being sold out in his neck of the woods that would be in my budget. He said he didn't have any but one guy who was storing his boat on his property was and it was in good shape. So he showed me the boat and motor (with no intent on pushing me since it wasn't his boat) and told me he has been on the boat and has personally done all the work to the motor when it needed it. He told me every time he made a suggestion like, "Hey in the next year or so you might want to look into replacing ________ because it's starting to wear down but you have some time for sure" then the owner would just tell him to do it now.

My sister in law fixes her motors when she can so she's really good with this kind of stuff and she said it's super clean and looks to be in good shape.

I'm pretty confident it's been super well maintained but that being said, I could head out on the lake for the first time and the thing starts on fire... praying that it doesn't.
 

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Glad to hear that you did your due diligence. I've replaced more items on mine than it's worth and unfortunately most parts are not available new. Of course good maintenance is very important and if this was well maintained then it should have some life left in it.
 

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Yah, I bloody hope so.

Few things that eased my mind:

1) It's super clean with no leaking oil
2) The guy has a spare one there with some parts still left on it... only thing I need is a new prop and coincidentally that's one of the only parts he doesn't have! :'(
3) He had no skin in the game and actually just wants to build trust so that I go to him when I need a mechanic (and he probably doesn't want to screw me over since some of my family already goes to him)
4) Recommendations from family members for his character and work

I think I'll be fine but I know it's not exactly a Honda or anything. Hopefully it runs well and for a long time.

What kind of issues have you had with yours? Major or minor problems? Any tips for owning a force?
 

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Where do I start....

- Impeller needed to be changed (no problem... will come back to this later)

- Started up fine one day on the garden hose, but not the next day. Took it to a place that wasn't a marine shop and they said it was the starter. Changed that. Worked then didn't... long story short... cracked block and they broke the new starter trying to get it to run (my mistake for taking it to non-marine mechanic)

- Cracked block... bought a refurbished one from the Ebay... Delivery guy decides to throw it off the truck and breaks some pieces... more items replaced including the starter that the buffoons broke.

- All good to go... not quite... marine mechanic says that the gas tank has bad gas in it and doesn't recommend using it until it's removed and cleaned properly (next time I change the floor) so ran it off an auxiliary tank. Then he checks seals on the lower end and they're blown. Changes them and pressure tests the new ones but realizes that there is a piece made of hard plastic that cracked when the impeller was changed. He's changed it twice, each one cracking on installation. It's still with him since last fall and will see if he's going to try again or giving up on it.

From what I've read, Force was a cheap motor instead of Mercury engines (both owned by the same mother company). A lot of issues with the design and performance. The line was shut down many decades ago and some parts are impossible to find. Some marine shops (not mentioning names) make a good buck selling these parts as they have lots and they're hard to find in the new or used market.
 

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Well, they got bought out by merc... but yah. Same shit. I think a lot of the parts are interchangeable with merc though, no? Read that somewhere a while back. I'll start researching again.

Yah, seems like a lot of those issues were caused by user error (before you) or shitty mechanics. But I agree, not the best make. I think it's like buying a Kia instead of a Honda car.
 

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Yes, a lot of the parts are now Merc parts for their older motors. Marineengine.com has a breakdown of a lot of these motors and you can use the official numbers associated with them for tracking them down elsewhere.
 

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haha I need a new prop and telling them about it over the phone has them scratching their heads. They all know about it but can't look anything up in their database about it :p

5/6 told me just to bring it in. So I drove out to the country to my sister's place to take it off and bring it in. Annoying. Should have bought a different brand name for convenience alone!
 

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I would say yours is more closely related to the US marine (Chrysler) outboards, than the Merc ones... When Mercury acquired Force, they fitted them with their gearcase (which yours is not)... be prepared for aftermarket parts if and when available and hope it doesn't have too many issues.
 

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I would say yours is more closely related to the US marine (Chrysler) outboards, than the Merc ones... When Mercury acquired Force, they fitted them with their gearcase (which yours is not)... be prepared for aftermarket parts if and when available and hope it doesn't have too many issues.
Actually, there is a sticker on the back of mine that says US marine haha.

You saying they suck? haha shoot. Well I'm hoping it doesn't have issues and if it does I'm hoping the mechanic I got it from will have the spare parts in his Force parts motor.

...This may have been a bad purchase.
 

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well, any engine that doesn't exist anymore isn't exactly a good thing. i sold my 1979 merc because all the parts were NLA... it could still be running today, or it may be an anchor. hopefully you don't have to worry.

i will suggest to use premium fuel and good quality oil. that will go a long way for runability
 
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